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1. MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Monday, 22-Jun-2015 14:10:23 UTC MMN-o ✅⃠

   • Hannes
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   • @mcscx@quitter.se (mcscx)'s status on Monday, 22-Jun-2015 18:25:16 UTC @mcscx@quitter.se

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     too bad I cant read Swedish & google translate is insufficient. Anyway I think #wifi might be dangerous b/c accesspoints #transmit non-stop
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   • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Monday, 22-Jun-2015 18:27:27 UTC MMN-o ✅⃠

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     @mcscx Non-ionizing radiation at low power levels should've shown to be dangerous as soon as we started broadcasting radio and tv with microwaves to the general public all over the world. There's no indication of anything like that.
     The person behind that blog is bat-shit crazy.
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   • @mcscx@quitter.se (mcscx)'s status on Monday, 22-Jun-2015 18:35:49 UTC @mcscx@quitter.se

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     @mmn radio+tv aren't exactly microwave& the transmitters are far away. We dont have long time experience w/ wifi transmitters in our rooms
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   • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Monday, 22-Jun-2015 19:17:33 UTC MMN-o ✅⃠

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     @mcscx Sorry, some radio (like the FM band) are below the specified "microwave" interval, but TV is broadcasted above the line of (apparently) 300 MHz. And regardless, if you think there's a difference in hazardous effects in the t…
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   • inscius (inscius)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jun-2015 07:08:20 UTC inscius

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     @mmn Health hazards are rarely shown "as soon as we started" anything. That's not a valid argument. 20 cigs >> cancer?  @mcscx
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   • Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠) (clackemovedtoheldscalla)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jun-2015 07:45:00 UTC Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)

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     • inscius
     @inscius Try > 20 years with microwave transmitters to our heads and in our pockets without any measurable health effects.
   • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jun-2015 08:03:20 UTC MMN-o ✅⃠

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     • inscius
     @inscius People have lived entire lives during TV broadcasting at high energy. If modern communication techniques, broadcasted at much lower effects and still with only miniscule thermal effects in the absolutely outer layers of th…
   • @mcscx@quitter.se (mcscx)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jun-2015 18:08:46 UTC @mcscx@quitter.se

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     @mmn ok, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation_and_health#Microwaves seems to confirm there's no cancer inducing effect
   • @mcscx@quitter.se (mcscx)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jun-2015 18:11:20 UTC @mcscx@quitter.se

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     @mmn OTOH:"Lab experiments have shown short-term exposure to high levels of RF radiation (100–200 mW/cm²) can cause cataracts in rabbits"
   • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jun-2015 20:10:11 UTC MMN-o ✅⃠

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     @mcscx First of all: quotation needed, I can't verify what they mean with "short-term". Also, 100-200 mW/cm² is - as it says - a pretty high dosage. Could it be this? https://social.umeahackerspace.se/url/31080 From the abstract: …
   • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jun-2015 20:18:01 UTC MMN-o ✅⃠

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     citation* (I should practice my wikipedian)
   • @mcscx@quitter.se (mcscx)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jun-2015 20:23:54 UTC @mcscx@quitter.se

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     @mmn Quotation source is the wikipedia link in the preceding dent = http://qttr.at/rrq
   • @mcscx@quitter.se (mcscx)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jun-2015 20:32:21 UTC @mcscx@quitter.se

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     @mmn 100mW/cm may be realistic. #wifi: "Equivalent isotropically radiated power (EIRP) in EU limited to 20dBm (100mW)" http://qttr.at/rrt
   • @mcscx@quitter.se (mcscx)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jun-2015 20:43:24 UTC @mcscx@quitter.se

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     @mmn [speculation] with 100mW being maximum permitted actual microwave output,you could expose 1cm² of your head (near your eye) to 50mW/cm→
   • @mcscx@quitter.se (mcscx)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jun-2015 20:44:46 UTC @mcscx@quitter.se

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     @mmn →by holding your smartphone against your head with the "wifi hotspot" ap mode enabled.
   • @mcscx@quitter.se (mcscx)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jun-2015 20:47:14 UTC @mcscx@quitter.se

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     @mmn →I assumed only 50mW/cm² because the other 50mW will go to other directions. I may be wrong with the "cm²" b/c the source says "cm"
   • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jun-2015 22:03:14 UTC MMN-o ✅⃠

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     @mcscx Yeah but I meant there was no citation source _on_ Wikipedia .)
   • @mcscx@quitter.se (mcscx)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jun-2015 23:27:18 UTC @mcscx@quitter.se

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     @mmn "150mW/cm² for 100 min at the maximum SAR 138 W/kg-¹
     in the eye." page 211 (= pdf page 225) http://qttr.at/rs6
   • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jun-2015 10:43:27 UTC MMN-o ✅⃠

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     On the subject of electrophobia in relation to science: http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/15/06/24/0317201/the-town-that-banned-wi-fi
   • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jun-2015 10:47:20 UTC MMN-o ✅⃠

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     :D :D “See those?” he asked. “Aeroplane trails?” “Not contrails – chemtrails,” he said. “The government sprays the air – it gets in the atmosphere.” He paused and looked me in the eye. “The world needs to know…